Medjugore, Signs and Wonders

Jul 22
21:00

2003

A K Whitehead

A K Whitehead

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by A K Whitehead

An article by Francis Frangipane has recently gone into circulation. It is
a very balanced and well constructed article. The main
purpose was to argue the need to put the word of the Bible
before signs and wonders and to see the latter in the context of the
former. He made a number of useful points and used some interesting
concepts. It was of a quality one would expect from him no more than
one would expect from him and it is not my purpose here to criticise
this work.

However, there are some points which arise from what he
said which do need attention. In pursuing his objective he, inevitably,
made comments which were subservient to it and, not being of main
concern, were not developed. But some of these do require further
consideration.

Extra-biblical Phenomona
FP defines manifestations which have no pattern in the Bible as
extra-biblical. In these he includes the quaking of Quakers and the
rolling of Holy Rollers. He then includes the claimed visitations of the
mother of Jesus at Medjugore (in the former Yugoslavia) as belonging
to the same category. This is surely a slip of thought.

Medjugore Patterns in the Bible?>/B>
A pattern consists of elements which can be regarded as representative
of something and which are repeated in recognisable ways.

In fact, there are several well known instances in the Bible which
constitute a pattern into which Medjugore fits very well. Visitations
of angels abound,
but there are other instances: Samuel appeared to Saul, albeit illegally
(1 Samuel 28:8 - 20); Jacob had an encounter with a heavenly being
(some would say divine) (Genesis 32. 23 - 33); there was a (probably
divine) appearance to Joshua (Joshua 5. 13 - 15). Of course, we know
of the appearance to Jesus himself of Moses and Elijah (Matthew
17. 1 - 8f) and there are many other examples one could quote.

Do these constitute a pattern into which the (claimed) appearances at
Medjugore fit? Surely they do. The visions at Medjugore are different
in only two respects: they concern a female rather than a male figure;
and they have been repeated every night without fail over twenty-two
years. Otherwise, and these are surely not grounds for exclusion, the
Medjugore events fit into the biblical pattern extremely well.

True, as patterns go, are identical, but many have repetitions which
include nonidentical elements. This is evident when we compare such
biblical events as mentioned above. All have similarities of one kind
or another but none can be said to be identical.

Medjugore, Quakers and Rollers.
The events at Medjugore cannot, therefore, properly be compared
with extra-biblical charismatic-type events relating to such as Quakers
and Rollers. Of course, Francis Frangipane was simply looking for
some examples, and unfortunately picked on Medjugore. But, since
the latter can be seen quite clearly to fit within the biblical category,
it does demand further attention. Clearly, this kind of categorisation
is permissive rather than conclusive of its genuineness: everything that
looks like something biblical is not necessarily genuine.

At least because of its influence on very large numbers of people, not to
say that God may be reaching to these people through this
manifestation,
the Medjugore phenomenon warrants some further
consideration.
Divine Or Demonic Origin?
FP says I personally do not believe that this was (is?) Mary. He
does not say why but, as we have noted, thinks that God may be using it.
But that is not really enough. It is either of satanic or of divine origin.
One or the other. Ought we not to make an assessment of which?

Is there a possibility of satanic origin? That is doubtful when one
considers the messages, and I have read many of them, which have
been coming out of Medjugore since 1981. Jesus once asked
“How can Satan drive out Satan?”
because a kingdom or house
cannot stand if divided against itself. Moreover, he added, very
significantly, that, if Satan were to oppose himself, his end would have
come (Mark 3. 23 - 26f).

Now, it may well be that Satan’s end is near, but it has clearly not
arrived at the moment. Moreover, the essence of the conflict between
God and Satan is, to coin a phrase, a struggle for the hearts and
minds
of God’s people. In that conflict the major weapon is a
composite of words, concepts and ideas - a major weapon on
both sides.

So what are the words (and fruits) coming out of Medjugore?
Principally, and repeatedly over the past twenty-two years: love,
peace and prayer - and not just any prayer, but sustain, repeated,
serious, two, three hours of prayer every day; the establishments of
prayer groups and a renewal by thousands of their life in Christ. Now,
does that sound like a message from Satan? Hardly. For as yet, his
kingdom has not fallen. Certainly he is a crafty strategist, but he
would hardly take the risk of repeating these messages every day for
so long! And to what end?

So phenomena at Medjugore is unlikely to be satanic in origin. That
leaves a divine source. FP doubts it is Mary. But who else, then?
Has God sent some angelic spirit to give such words of truth, over
so long a period, by deceiving his people with a spirit instructed to
claim to be the mother of Jesus but which it is not? That seems
implausible, to put it at its lowest.

Hence, whether we like it or not, (but why do we not?) Mary seems
the likeliest probability.

Now, although a lifelong Catholic, (albeit with strong Pentecostal
symptoms) I am not what Catholics would call a Marianist
i.e. someone with a special devotion to Mary. And I have always been
somewhat shy of the idea of to Jesus through Mary>/I> - not
because it cannot happen, because it can and has for many people,
but there is always the risk getting stuck on or at Mary.
But maybe that implies that I think God cannot look
after those who sincerely seek him.

However, we also have to take a wider view than Medjugore itself.
It has been argued here that the (claimed) appearances there are not
extra-biblical and that is not surrendered. But suppose they were,
for arguments sake. While the Bible contains only truth, not all truth
is contained within the Bible.How could it be when John’s gospels
says that the world could not contain even everything which the
disciples knew of Jesus alone (John 21. 25)?
Being extra-biblical, as WP acknowledges, is not in itself a cause for
condemnation. So...?

In order to accept that the appearances at Medjugore are genuine,
one has to consider them within the wider framework of Marian
appearances. Medjugore is only the latest in a long cycle of (claimed)
appearences of Mary. Most non-Catholics will not be aware of
even those in the modern era, which amount to at least eight major
visitations, from Guadalope in Mexico in 1531, through Bernadette
Soubirous in1858 at Lourdes in France, andKnock in Ireland in
1879, to Fatima in Spain, in 1917 (which led Catholics world-wide
to pray over decades for the downfall of communism and the USSR).
Not one is identical to another but there is a very strong pattern of
similarities (which space here does not permit of description).

In every instance there have been signs and wonders over succeeding
decades or centuries of continuing evangelistic and healing associations.
Far too many to delineate here, but far too many to pass-off as
bunkum and, for reasons similar to those given above, too
marked by the work of the Spirit to judge satanic in origin.

I have never been to Medjugore. Perhaps I should have. But, in FP’s t
erms, I could have been found running after signs when the
Toronto Blessinghit the north east of England at Sunderland
some years ago. I hope I did not do it at the expense of the God’s
word. But I could not accept the condemnations which some other
Christians were making of it of it without investigation. I did get the
shakes as a result, although I could never see any real
spiritual growth as a consequence.

There is, perhaps, too much suspicion among Christians of Christians
in sectors other than one’s own (not that Francis Frangipane is guilty
of this). God is too big even for the Bible, and certainly for
our limited minds to comprehend. And it is surely an irresponsible
Christian who thinks he knows the limits to the ways in which God
acts among his people, or who thinks he can impose such limits.